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I love this post from Powers. I am taking medication that destroys all scalp hair to transition from female to male and my treatment sucks because it causes huge amounts of hair loss which none of the other "men" in my family experienced until 20 years later. Um. Being slick bald is as male as it gets, Sir and yet you still whine like a girl:

FTM Hormone Treatment should be Improved​


I feel that the standard FTM Hormone treatment is not optimal for our bodies.
My reasoning is the extremely high rate of persistent acne (even accounting for a full second puberty spanning multiple years) and the accelerated and/or high rate of balding.
I have dealt with persistent acne for nearly ten years since starting testosterone. No, I will not take accutane, because I know someone who suffered eye damage from it.
I am balding 20 years earlier than ANY man from BOTH sides of my family. This can't be explained by the XX gene carrier reasoning that is usually used.
How many cis men have you seen with acne and balding at the same time? I'm sure there are some, but the frequency of this occurrence in cis men is magnitudes lower by percentage than FTMs (anecdotal, but I'm sure a study would agree).
If this disproportionate negative effect is externally visible, then what is happening inside our bodies? We deserve better than this, there need to be more studies and probably a broader regimen.
MTFs get multiple medications for correct control. We just get standard T like cis men, who have more DHT receptor sites like the prostate. There is no control or modification for our physiology unlike in MTFs.
Edit: That was not intended as a side swipe. I really felt envious seeing MTFs "get all these things" estradiol, prog, blockers, while we get one thing. No E blocking is provided for us.
 

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I love this post from Powers. I am taking medication that destroys all scalp hair to transition from female to male and my treatment sucks because it causes huge amounts of hair loss which none of the other "men" in my family experienced until 20 years later. Um. Being slick bald is as male as it gets, Sir and yet you still whine like a girl:

FTM Hormone Treatment should be Improved​


I feel that the standard FTM Hormone treatment is not optimal for our bodies.
My reasoning is the extremely high rate of persistent acne (even accounting for a full second puberty spanning multiple years) and the accelerated and/or high rate of balding.
I have dealt with persistent acne for nearly ten years since starting testosterone. No, I will not take accutane, because I know someone who suffered eye damage from it.
I am balding 20 years earlier than ANY man from BOTH sides of my family. This can't be explained by the XX gene carrier reasoning that is usually used.
How many cis men have you seen with acne and balding at the same time? I'm sure there are some, but the frequency of this occurrence in cis men is magnitudes lower by percentage than FTMs (anecdotal, but I'm sure a study would agree).
If this disproportionate negative effect is externally visible, then what is happening inside our bodies? We deserve better than this, there need to be more studies and probably a broader regimen.
MTFs get multiple medications for correct control. We just get standard T like cis men, who have more DHT receptor sites like the prostate. There is no control or modification for our physiology unlike in MTFs.
Edit: That was not intended as a side swipe. I really felt envious seeing MTFs "get all these things" estradiol, prog, blockers, while we get one thing. No E blocking is provided for us.
Nah but FtM thinks they will look like an anime boy. The crude reality is that every man with enough exposure to T, even the more androgynous one on puberty or early twenties will turn into a beast after years on T, some are a bit luckier and get to their 30's looking decent and others are unlucky and get destroyed by T and DHT as early as 15-16, but T and DHT will always be a poison no matter what
 

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Nah but FtM thinks they will look like an anime boy. The crude reality is that every man with enough exposure to T, even the more androgynous one on puberty or early twenties will turn into a beast after years on T, some are a bit luckier and get to their 30's looking decent and others are unlucky and get destroyed by T and DHT as early as 15-16, but T and DHT will always be a poison no matter what
I look at pics on reddit where mtf's and ftm's meet in the middle so to speak and I am always taken aback by the incredible amount of body hair that many of these folks have. It's one thing to be male but who wants to be a "bear"? but some FtM's dig that look.
 

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I look at pics on reddit where mtf's and ftm's meet in the middle so to speak and I am always taken aback by the incredible amount of body hair that many of these folks have. It's one thing to be male but who wants to be a "bear"? but some FtM's dig that look.

I do think FTM post puberty wont get successful transition. They will likely not grow cause growth plates are closed if they start post puberty so they will be short (unless few FtM that were tall before hormones). Short men are known to be less appealing to women and society in general. Mix that with balding, lots of body hair and a vagina with a mega clitoris, and you create an incel that could be prevented.
 

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I do think FTM post puberty wont get successful transition. They will likely not grow cause growth plates are closed if they start post puberty so they will be short (unless few FtM that were tall before hormones). Short men are known to be less appealing to women and society in general. Mix that with balding, lots of body hair and a vagina with a mega clitoris, and you create an incel that could be prevented.
It's interesting though. The balding ones pass easily since females essentially never go bald until their 60's. But they do tend to be very short plump people and they are not very attractive as men to me qua men at all. Two thirds of transgender people now are FtM's which is almost unbelievable to me. Where did this come from? Previously you had transsexual XY's who tried to fit in and look normal and now people are freaking out because their daughters want to become men.
 

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It's interesting though. The balding ones pass easily since females essentially never go bald until their 60's. But they do tend to be very short plump people and they are not very attractive as men to me qua men at all.
As I said, the formula to create an incel, short, bald, plump and unattractive.
Two thirds of transgender people now are FtM's which is almost unbelievable to me. Where did this come from? Previously you had transsexual XY's who tried to fit in and look normal and now people are freaking out because their daughters want to become men.
Idk but injecting Testosterone will never feel right to me no matter what. As I said only few cis men are lucky to look good, but even the best looking ones will start to rot after 35 yo at most. Imagine being born with the superior hormone and disfigure yourself permanently by injecting Testosterone.
 

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As I said, the formula to create an incel, short, bald, plump and unattractive.

Idk but injecting Testosterone will never feel right to me no matter what. As I said only few cis men are lucky to look good, but even the best looking ones will start to rot after 35 yo at most. Imagine being born with the superior hormone and disfigure yourself permanently by injecting Testosterone.
I have seen beautiful XX's destroy their looks entirely and it's heartbreaking to me. You can see the inflammation easily on white men's faces at least by 40. Their beards tend to be endlessly infected and they have no choice but to grow beards because the bleeding from shaving is so bad. Dandruff and sebum start to go runaway and I have seen shiny examples of great male athletes broken down into balding old men seemingly in just a few years. Marky posted a track athlete who looked like Hercules with great hair at 40 and who looked like a broken down milquetoast balding guy by 50. I was about to be that guy and I apologize to all of the other XY's but I jumped ship. I never felt like a girl growing up or ever really. There's a point for some MtF's where we know that we are about to collapse prematurely as men and estradiol seems to reset our age 20 to 30 years younger and all of the inflammation clears up on our faces. Beard removal helps but I was at the point of no longer being attractive to women or men and now I am attractive to both and I feel literally 30 years younger. All of my flexibility is back in my joints. My back and neck have healed. I think estradiol overwrites male ligaments and tendons with female tissue and it is almost always incredibly rejuvenating.

HRT with estradiol is the closest thing to the Fountain of Youth that exists. It obviates prostate cancer and greatly lessens heart disease. If XY's are done breeding, maybe they should consider castration. Testosterone does many exceptional things especially in math and science and navigation but it ages you and wears you down because you run hot as a system.
 

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I have seen beautiful XX's destroy their looks entirely and it's heartbreaking to me. You can see the inflammation easily on white men's faces at least by 40. Their beards tend to be endlessly infected and they have no choice but to grow beards because the bleeding from shaving is so bad. Dandruff and sebum start to go runaway and I have seen shiny examples of great male athletes broken down into balding old men seemingly in just a few years. Marky posted a track athlete who looked like Hercules with great hair at 40 and who looked like a broken down milquetoast balding guy by 50. I was about to be that guy and I apologize to all of the other XY's but I jumped ship. I never felt like a girl growing up or ever really. There's a point for some MtF's where we know that we are about to collapse prematurely as men and estradiol seems to reset our age 20 to 30 years younger and all of the inflammation clears up on our faces. Beard removal helps but I was at the point of no longer being attractive to women or men and now I am attractive to both and I feel literally 30 years younger. All of my flexibility is back in my joints. My back and neck have healed. I think estradiol overwrites male ligaments and tendons with female tissue and it is almost always incredibly rejuvenating.

HRT with estradiol is the closest thing to the Fountain of Youth that exists. It obviates prostate cancer and greatly lessens heart disease. If XY's are done breeding, maybe they should consider castration. Testosterone does many exceptional things especially in math and science and navigation but it ages you and wears you down because you run hot as a system.
i agree. I decided to castrate myself both chemically and physically,because by any means I want Testosterone to poison my system anymore. Trying to erase all the DHT from my body too, I am just in the process to find a good solution for my dutasteride powder, because standard 0.5 mg doesnt work on me. After achieving that, I will be able to finally conclude this hair loss journey with a great success, but not only hair loss, but also youth, I will see people my age looking older and older fast because of T & DHT and I will be looking years younger while being the same age as them. As you said, estradiol is the Fountain of Youth. Tbh I could be looking years younger tho but I am too skinny and my face looks kinda hollow and that makes me look 'less young' but even with this weight issues, I still look younger than a 17 yo skinny guy probably i definitely look younger than my 17 yo me
 

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What are strong anti inflammatory drugs, stronger then aspirin, that help hairloss. Or for hairloss
 

Esquire Janey

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What are strong anti inflammatory drugs, stronger then aspirin, that help hairloss. Or for hairloss
Estradiol. Do you want to see a before and after example of the differences in inflammation?

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i agree. I decided to castrate myself both chemically and physically,because by any means I want Testosterone to poison my system anymore. Trying to erase all the DHT from my body too, I am just in the process to find a good solution for my dutasteride powder, because standard 0.5 mg doesnt work on me. After achieving that, I will be able to finally conclude this hair loss journey with a great success, but not only hair loss, but also youth, I will see people my age looking older and older fast because of T & DHT and I will be looking years younger while being the same age as them. As you said, estradiol is the Fountain of Youth. Tbh I could be looking years younger tho but I am too skinny and my face looks kinda hollow and that makes me look 'less young' but even with this weight issues, I still look younger than a 17 yo skinny guy probably i definitely look younger than my 17 yo me
I found this on Reddit by accident while answering questions directed to my handle. It is from 2 years ago in the second pic and from ten years ago in the first. All of the bossing is gone. The face is clear and the chin is narrow and the cheekbones are high. This is only from HRT and filler basically. I have used botox but it's nothing compared to filler in terms of making you hot overnight.
 
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@Adri23 i wanna start spironolactone so bad today.I dont wanna wait to taper off cpa i dont know what to do…
i need to improve my diffuse thinning asap, i hope vit D and multivitamins can slow down shedding
 

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I found this on Reddit by accident while answering questions directed to my handle. It is from 2 years ago in the second pic and from ten years ago in the first. All of the bossing is gone. The face is clear and the chin is narrow and the cheekbones are high. This is only from HRT and filler basically. I have used botox but it's nothing compared to filler in terms of making you hot overnight.
Face volume does everything to being more attractive. Last year I used to weight ~60 kgs and it was day and night. I looked so much better than I do now. My hair was worse tho
 

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@Adri23 i wanna start spironolactone so bad today.I dont wanna wait to taper off cpa i dont know what to do…
i need to improve my diffuse thinning asap, i hope vit D and multivitamins can slow down shedding
You can do it. It is your hair and your life, I cant decide anything you do
 

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Does spironolactone reduce some androgen that e2 or cpa doesnt ? like aldosterone ?
 
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